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Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:13 am
by gtipwrd
Any recommendations for printing on pressure sensitive tape that does not have a release backing? Essentially taking a 12-18" roll of finished tape, run it through a Mark Andy 4150 successfully without it getting stuck at the impression roller.

Is teflon wrap the best solution or is there some type of coating to apply to rollers which will help prevent the adhesive backing from sticking?

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:30 am
by Frank Burgos
What I have seen used in these situations are idlers with a highly textured surface, almost like the surface is impregnated with little diamonds. The idea being that the surface is low-stick and only the high points of the surface touch the adhesive.

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:42 pm
by longtimefan
Frank Burgos wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:30 am What I have seen used in these situations are idlers with a highly textured surface, almost like the surface is impregnated with little diamonds. The idea being that the surface is low-stick and only the high points of the surface touch the adhesive.
I've seen that.

Teflon will work great but expensive

There are some sleeving material that goes over the idler and shrinks onto it

But I don't know who that is

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:15 pm
by Frank Burgos
Here's something I've seen a while back, but I never tried it:

https://www.tesa.com/en/industry/tesa-p ... 3-pv3.html

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:57 pm
by longtimefan
Frank Burgos wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:15 pm Here's something I've seen a while back, but I never tried it:

https://www.tesa.com/en/industry/tesa-p ... 3-pv3.html
Seen it and used it. Helps grip but I don't recall if acted like teflon

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:16 am
by gtipwrd
longtimefan wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:57 pm
Frank Burgos wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:15 pm Here's something I've seen a while back, but I never tried it:

https://www.tesa.com/en/industry/tesa-p ... 3-pv3.html
Seen it and used it. Helps grip but I don't recall if acted like teflon
I saw this and talked with a local supplier about it. He did make it sound like it was more to help with grip through the web path.

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:18 am
by gtipwrd
longtimefan wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:42 pm
Frank Burgos wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:30 am What I have seen used in these situations are idlers with a highly textured surface, almost like the surface is impregnated with little diamonds. The idea being that the surface is low-stick and only the high points of the surface touch the adhesive.
I've seen that.

Teflon will work great but expensive

There are some sleeving material that goes over the idler and shrinks onto it

But I don't know who that is
Thanks for the info, I'll look around for sleeving material.

Re: Printing on pressure sensitive tape

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:32 pm
by Frank Burgos
I thought I'd mention that when I am looking for something like this, I consider the vendors and manufacturers that are likely to have come across these things.

For example, if I want to know the best solution for cleaning ink off of my equipment, I might ask the manufacturer of my ink what they use to clean theirs.

If I want to know what surface would work for expose adhesive on film, I am inclined to contact folks like Mark Andy, Rotometrics, Wilson Die, etc. These folks either make these items or are exposed to them.

Don't forget AI, like ChatGPT or Copilot. I use these AI tools every day and I am constantly blown away.

Happy printing!